Posts by Della Street

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Films with nudity

by neat blue dog in

i guess every jw has a different conscience on the matter, and i don't believe any jw publications have ever specifically mentioned nudity in film as being off limits.

of course genitals are out of the question because that's usually relegated to r movies which most good jws don't view.

female toplessness is condoned but not spoken about, as most jws i know have seen titanic and many own it.

my JW family watched a lot of foreign films, and they had nudity in them. It depends on the context. Does it move the story forward? Is it someone taking a bath, or is it porn? It's a continuum. I'm hard to offend, but I still don't like gratuitous sex or violence just for the sake of it. It needs to be part of the story and in the appropriate degree.

Europeans in general have a more relaxed view of nudity than Americans. We do come from Puritans and that has carried through to the general immaturity and repression Americans display around the subject.

Whenever I talked about it to any JW that was offended, I'd always ask, "you know you're naked under your clothes, right?" that usually made them stop and think...

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What does 'populist' mean?

by LoveUniHateExams in

so yeah, i've been encountering the word 'populist' quite a bit recently.. e.g.

trump's a populist president.. what does it mean?.

does it simply mean popular?.

Della Street

I'm not sure how a "billionaire" is not considered elitist. He may be outside the established political system, but he is not "every man". Frankly, I don't think poor whites look at Trump and identify with him, I think they identify with the fear, distrust and prejudice that he uses to get votes. Caravan, anyone?

As far as "not being able to be bought" - I think his dealings with Putin and Saudi Arabia demonstrate that he has been bought...He's out for personal gain and he's allowing himself to be used as a puppet for a global agenda orchestrated by Bannon et al.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/21/steve-bannons-rightwing-europe-operation-undermined-by-election-laws

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Reminder:Leah Remini Expose on J.W.'s airs Tuesday Nov.13 on A&E channel.

by StoneWall in

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thought i'd post this since the date is almost upon us for those who want to see it as it premieres.hope it turns out really good and that she can help many to see the watchtower for what it really is like she did about the scientologists.here's a link to a small preview of it:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/leah-remini-scientology-aftermath-jehovah-s-witnesses-special-event-trailer-1153594

Della Street

It's tomorrow. I can't wait!!

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Thank you F&DS @ the Watchtower Corporation! Thank you! Thank you!

by Solzhenitsyn in

this sundays 11/18 wt p.18 pp.3.

/ happy are those who serve "the happy god".

"stressful events-such as when a loved one dies or is disfellowshipped...".

Della Street

That article is messed up!

Under "Qualities of Happiness" - the first quality is mourning....their ability to twist the scriptures is worse than I remember....

"Happy are those who mourn, for they will be comforted." Matt 5:4

Jesus did not have in mind all who mourn for any sort of reason. Even wicked people bemoan the distressing difficulties that characterize these “critical times hard to deal with.” (2 Tim. 3:1) But their self-centered mourning does not draw them closer to Jehovah; hence, it does not lead them toward happiness. Jesus must have had in mind people who are conscious of their spiritual need and therefore mourn the appalling spiritual conditions that prevail. They may recognize their own sinful state and the heartbreaking circumstances that have resulted from human sinfulness.

So we can be happy because we are sad that we are sinful? It really demonstrates that underlying not just the JW dogma, but Christian dogma is the belief that people are innately bad.

Not a point of view I support. Imperfect? Of course. Bad, nope. They really feed off people feeling like POS and having a low opinion of themselves. I remember how that felt and I'm SO HAPPY I don't feel that way any more. Everything with them is so dark and depressing and desperate. And we wonder why people get trapped in there... it's emotionally sticky. UGH.

Thanks for posting this so I can remember why I left. Congrats to all of us who are out and free.

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What Do You Think Will Be The Next Big Change In The Watchtower?

by minimus in

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i think there will be a change in the 144000 belief.

too many witnesses think they have a heavenly hope.

maybe 1914 will be discarded too.. what is your watchtower prediction?

Della Street

I just talked to my mom yesterday, and she mentioned some major changes in how they are doing their ministry.

Not offering literature
Bible only - share an encouraging verse
Visit 2 - 3 minutes at each door
Bible Study Lessons online

There is less and less for them to do it seems. And with the WT cutting down on the amount of magazines they are writing every year - I could see them make these changes: meetings once a week on Sundays, giving up 1914 (100+ years after the fact, it gets harder to justify), being more vague on who has a heavenly hope...

I think they hang on to the blood issue for a bit longer and they are going to have to get slammed some more on how they handle reporting child abuse before they change.

It would be nice to see them become more like any other Christian religion and less cultish. Focus on personal development; less conforming to arbitrary rules that are not in any way reflective of what is scriptural; more social support less judgment,...

so we'll see. If they give all that up, what is left?

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Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

Della Street

Are there any states where Mandatory Reporter Laws were successfully amended to include clergy or spiritual advisors? I'm in Oregon, and I'm thinking I'd like to see what can be done here to include even "lay" clergy like the Elders. Any ideas what the language for that would look like?

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Elders' new direction.

by lastmanstanding in

there's been a change.

a rather big one.

and the kevin bunkers of the world beware.. jw elders no longer need to "turn the other cheek".. in the governing bastard's desperation, they have given a new directive to elders.

Della Street

I am actually not sure this is really new. It seems to me this has been the direction for some time. Do you have a letter??

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Why is the watchtower tight fisted

by pepperheart in

why when i can get many books and magazines sent through the post from many other cults does the watchtower make a big fuss about a little 16 page magazine.

Della Street

Just download it from the website. Print out as many copies as you want. Why should they mail it to you?

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Possible leak from Annual Meeting 2018

by Listener in

i'm a member on jw talk (until now at least) and have been regularly checking up on their thread regarding the annual meeting.

there hasn't been a great deal to report on except for this recent post that has been made.

i may get outed but that's no loss.

Della Street

@FedUpJW

In order for the GT to start, doesn't Babylon The Great have to Fall??? When and how did that happen??

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Possible leak from Annual Meeting 2018

by Listener in

i'm a member on jw talk (until now at least) and have been regularly checking up on their thread regarding the annual meeting.

there hasn't been a great deal to report on except for this recent post that has been made.

i may get outed but that's no loss.

Della Street

Some of you may recall I have a friend who just got back from the Annual Meeting and was eager to tell me the "historic and exciting" information that she learned...I had lunch with her today....so drum roll please......

The King of the North is.....Russia!!!.... I KNOW... didn't they already think that? And the answer is yes. But they now also think the prophecy of the "pushing" between the King of the North (Anglo-American world powers and their allies) and King of the South (Russia and their Allies) is being fulfilled now as evidenced by the persecution (banning of JWs and their bible being labeled "extremist" material) .... and of course the interference of Russia in the current political cycles of the US....

Plus the Ezekiel book, the cartoon, and the new book for the giving speakers counsel for their talks.

So, that was the earth shattering information. (YAWN).

She did however tell me something that I've never heard or read, and I wondered what anyone else know about it...WT owns a fiber optics company that was developed by graduate students at a university - lead by a JW professor. This company is owned by WT and has Bethelites working along side non-JW employees. The person who hosted them for the Annual meeting is a "supervisor" of this project.

Maybe this is no big deal, but it makes me wonder what other companies like this the WT owns and how this plays into how they shift their money around to avoid detection.

Frankly, it was the most interesting thing she said about the JWs during the whole lunch.

Anyway....eagerly awaiting your comments. :-)